I was recently on a new Podcast, The FormationCast, hosted by Andrew Esqueda. In this interview, Andrew asked me to reflect on my own spiritual formation. He also got me talking about some of the research I've been working on for my Ph.D. as well as my work on friendship in the book Delighted. This conversation happened about a month or so into the Covid-19 pandemic, so much of our conversation sort of hovers in that space. I hope you'll enjoy listening. Check out The FormationCast, and listen to the episode.